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Board Kills Dulles Growth Plan

(Created: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 8:24 PM EST)

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A proposal to lift development limits in the county's Transition Policy Area in the Dulles District went down in defeat Wednesday evening after a majority of supervisors said they simply could not endorse dramatic increases in residential density in that area.

On a 6-3 vote, supervisors Wednesday night killed the Upper Broad Run/Upper Foley Subareas Comprehensive Plan Amendment, also known as the Transition CPAM, but vowed to keep working with George Mason University to bring a full-service campus to the county.

"We've decided this is not the right time and not the right place," said Supervisor Lori Waters (R-Broad Run), adding that she would no longer support the applicant-initiated CPAM process that allowed several developers to propose increased densities because of the time it took the board to finish its review. "I will never again, never again support applicant-initiated CPAMs. Two and a half years of struggle can be avoided in the future."

Supervisors counting votes during a work session Monday realized there were five votes against the proposal to increase residential densities and called for an immediate vote to end debate and bring the issue to final resolution.

Despite attempts by Greenvest, the largest developer in the planning zone, to sweeten the pot by offering to lay the groundwork for a full-service George Mason University campus along Rt. 50, a majority of the Loudoun Board of Supervisors rejected the prospect of increasing densities by even 5,000 homes, much less than the nearly 34,000 that could have potentially been built under the version endorsed by the county planning commission.

The first trimming came after Vice Chairman Bruce E. Tulloch (R-Potomac) determined there was not support for changing the county's land use plan south of Braddock Road. That geographic section was removed from the CPAM. However, he continued to make the case that he believed George Mason University should build a new campus in the county and that the 123 acres Greenvest had planned to donate to the school just east of the Transition Area would be an appropriate spot.

But on Monday, Supervisor Mick Staton (R-Sugarland Run) joined other dissenters and made it clear that he did not support the increased density, prompting County Chairman Scott K. York (I-At Large) to ask to cut the board's debate short, cancel remaining work sessions on the item and recommend denial to the full board during this week's board meeting.

Staton said he had been intrigued with the development proposals when first introduced more than two years ago in part because of the possibility of using a Community Development Authority, which essentially serves as a tax district in which new homeowners pay for infrastructure, rather than taxpayers countywide. He also liked the idea of balancing the amount of commercial space in the county with residential uses and questioned the nature of the Transition Area, but ultimately did not believe the proposal was worth his support.

"The CDAs seem to have gone by the wayside and no one seems to be interested in talking about that balanced mix," he said, indicating that he did not like the way the proposal evolved.

While the GMU angle appeared to spark great interest among some supervisors, as the details of the proposed campus were revealed-such as the potential need for county investment and the contingency that Greenvest's rezoning plans be approved before it would donate the land to the school-that aspect lost its sheen.

GMU representatives told supervisors in recent meetings that the university would require a vibrant community surrounding it to achieve the type of full-service campus they envisioned with graduate and undergraduate degrees. They also told supervisors they were planning to come to Loudoun regardless of the supervisors' decision on Greenvest's proposal, which initially called for about 15,000 homes with the promise to pay for significant road and school construction.

However, letters from Greenvest and GMU made the situation clearer, and led some supervisors to wonder whether the two entities were being forthright. In a letter from Greenvest CEO Jim Duszynski to the board, Duszynski said Greenvest would convey 123 acres to GMU "promptly following approval by Loudoun County of the Arcola/GMU rezoning."

Without an approved rezoning, Duszynski explained that the university would have six months to purchase the land.

In addition, GMU representatives told the board that Prince William County had rezoned land to construct a town center near the GMU campus there. In fact, Prince William has re-planned an area near the university, but had not yet rezoned it. And the school indicated it would locate in Loudoun regardless of the CPAM decision, but later wrote: "Absent the infrastructure to support it, a George Mason campus in Loudoun County will have little chance of success."

"George Mason has a credibility problem with me," said Supervisor Jim Burton (I-Blue Ridge). "I don't know what we're dealing with."

GMU representatives said they would be willing to work with the county on creating a campus on another site, but again pointed to the need for infrastructure as well as at least 120 acres.

"I think we all were a little bit surprised with their presentation on a number of fronts," Waters said. "If they want to put a larger campus in Loudoun, I'm still open to that, but I don't think this is the right spot for it, because so much of the infrastructure is not there. It's too high of a cost to get it there."

Tulloch, who was absent from the Nov. 5 work session with GMU, said he was "disgusted" when he watched the tape because of shifting answers from GMU, but added "I still believe GMU needs to come to Loudoun County with a full-service university."

He said the site near Rt. 50 may be appropriate because it would provide the school with a clean slate from which to construct its new campus.

He also said those who say the prevailing issue with the Transition CPAM is affordable housing are wrong, calling such suggestions, "a joke."

York said making the focus of the CPAM review about GMU was also misguided because the idea of the school came along well after the initial land use proposal for higher residential densities.

"I came in here needing two aspirins. I now need a full bottle," he said. "The discussion wasn't about GMU."

But then, he said, GMU became the focus, which meant there was a need for infrastructure, leading to the call for increased density to construct market-rate homes so that developers could pay for that infrastructure.

York and Tulloch were authorized to meet with GMU leaders to evaluate the school's needs outside the Greenvest proposal. They also will contact Gov. Timothy Kaine (D) in an attempt to get the state to help lure GMU to Loudoun with incentives, such as money to buy the land Greenvest offered the school.

Snow continued to make the case that without permitting larger-scale projects, the county ends up with by-right development that pays no capital facilities contributions, no road proffers and provides no affordable dwelling units.

"I think that's poor government and you haven't served the people well," he said about rejecting the CPAM.

Snow questioned the accuracy of staff reports about the potential impact of the proposed development increases. Meanwhile, staff members raised concerns about a fiscal analysis report contracted by Greenvest.

Snow said Greenvest's report, by Robert Charles Lesser & Co., indicates Loudoun faces a shortage of 50,000 homes by 2030 and that the board is not doing enough to provide housing in the county. While county planning staff members had tried to pull together information sought by board members, they acknowledged that the information was not perfect because of the rushed time in which they had to produce it, and Snow said there was not enough information to make an informed decision.

"That's not good data," Snow said of the planning staff information, while referring to information provided by Greenvest to make his case that there would be a housing shortage.

However, Deputy Chief Financial Officer Ben Mays pointed out that the Lesser analysis indicated that single-family detached homes would run out in four years, but that townhouses and multifamily homes are in supply for as many as 20 years.

Snow made last ditch efforts Monday and Wednesday to win support for some version of the plan by scaling it back. While the board had previously agreed to narrow the scope of the planning commission's recommendation, which had the potential for more than 33,000 homes, by about one-third, Snow's late proposal called for only approving increased residential densities north of Rt. 50. That would result in the potential for as many as 7,523 homes in three areas that are currently planned for as many as 2,212 homes. A late proposal Wednesday called for even fewer homes, but was not accepted by supervisors.

Snow's motion on Monday failed on a 2-6-1 vote with just Supervisor Jim Clem (R-Leesburg) giving his support. Supervisor Eugene Delgaudio (R-Sterling) was absent from the meeting. Clem left the meeting after that vote. Snow's smaller proposal Wednesday failed 3-6 with Clem and Delgaudio supporting him.

Snow accused the board of purposefully deciding to leave Loudoun residents in gridlock and causing higher taxes by allowing by-right development rather than approving the CPAM.

"What you guys are doing and what you ... have perpetrated on our taxpayers ... you're not going to get Rt. 659," Snow said, referring to Greenvest's and other developers' proffers to construct the realignment of that road from the Dulles Greenway south to the Prince William County line. "What are you going to do for all of these roads?"

He also hammered away at board members because he said they were refusing to provide homes for future county workers. "Where are the people going to live?" he asked.

Snow promised to work with residents and activist groups, including the Piedmont Environmental Council, to develop a bond proposal to pay for infrastructure needs in the Dulles South area. Other supervisors said they looked forward to participating in those discussions.

York's motion Monday to end the CPAM debate and recommend denial to the full board passed 5-2-2 with Snow and Tulloch voting against it. Delgaudio and Clem were absent for the vote.

York's motion on Wednesday for the full board to kill the CPAM passed 6-3 with Snow, Delgaudio and Clem voting against it.

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concerned citizen wrote on Nov 10, 2006 5:00 PM:

" Bob, please see Morton Libarkin's excellent analysis of this "great and open debate" in today's Leesburg Today. "

Bob Bosco wrote on Nov 10, 2006 12:40 PM:

" I would like to add support for Supervisor snow. While many feel he was wrong minded for his support for the CPAM, he was right that future services are going to be demanded in his District and this was a tool to have the development community provide those services. I am sure if he could have found a way to provide these future service needs without raising taxes or increasing density he would have championed that fight. He supported what he beleived was best for the future of the citizens in his district and to finally win a full service university for all the citizens of Loudoun. One thing is for certain in Loudouns future and that is that this land will someday develope with urban densities similar to South Riding. There is only so much land and when the demand for new homes reaches a critical point this are will be re-planned and developed. It is the history of our society to grow. Lets just hope when the future opportunity knocks at the door of our community to develope a full service university that we will have the foresight to make it a reality and have the ability to planned the associated growth with the least amount of impact on the tax payers of this community as Supervisor Snow attempted to do this time. Anyone who was not a native Loudouner is part of the growth problem in our community. We caused the sprawl, we cause the traffic jams and those of you that have children make us build more and more schools. I think the entire Board did what was appropriate in studing this CPAM for 2 and 1/2 years and the majority voted the plan down based on their lenghty analysis of all the facts presented. It truely was democracy in action and represents well the fairness in which all the parties were treated. I think instead of wanting to tar and feather the politicians that did not support your view point that all the Board members should be praised for the fine job they did and the even handed way they treated the applicant's and how they represented the citizens best interest. Thank you Board you all served the citizens of Loudoun well. "

Jeff wrote on Nov 10, 2006 6:00 AM:

" It's hard to believe the citizens finally got a break and won one for a change, and especially on a deal with so much developer money tied up in it. The only thing that would have made my week better would have been to also had the chance to cast my vote for our board supervisor this past Tuesday. One more year to go Mr. Snow, and you and your developer lackeys like Ms. Munsey will FINALLY be rooted out. If you like living in the type of gridlocked, overtaxed, and overbuilt "community" you tried to force on us, Chantilly is a short drive away. I'm sure you'll like it there. "

Alexander wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:38 PM:

" I would like to help some of the BOS with their "new job search" in light of the recent activities in Loudoun. Mr Snow: You like to deal with things "slimy and greasy" like builders and developers trying to rape the county, my sugggestion for you would be to check out Jiffy Lube! You get to wear a uniform again and bark orders something you seem to like doing and miss so much from your military days. As for next November, don't even think about it, you are history.. Mr. Clem: YOu like to "bury" things, so my suggestion for you is to get a job with Dominion Power and help them bury the power lines in the West instead of destroying yet more land in the name of progress. And Mr. DelGaudio: You seem to like to be the cartoon character of the BOS, I hear the "Burger King" job is open, you will fit right in there. Adios to the BOS who don't get it. The recent election had nothing to do with Dem or Rep or Indie, it had to do with listening to the voice of people..plain and simple. "

bannerscore wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:23 PM:

" I am appalled by the Board of Supervisors of rejecting this bethmoth proposal that would tarnish the quality of life in Loudoun, adding about 36,000 homes in nearly 9,200 acres. Who on Earth would agree to do that? Mr. Stephen Snow loves this proposal and never gave a thought about the traffic woes us Northern Virginians face on a regular basis. I have a gut feeling that Mr. Snow loves the computer game Sim City and probably envisioned this idea while playing it. Yes, its intresting if its played in a game, but Mr. Snow that is totally different in real life. You need to listen to the citizens of Loudoun, not your developer friends. Good luck next year for re-election, I can guarantee you that prominent political expert Mr. Larry Sabato--even though the Univ. of Virginia professor focuses on the national races--would see in his Crystal Ball that your future in Loudoun is full of uncertainty. "

Ayn Rand wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:18 PM:

" A good decision, but it's a travesty that this CPAM ever saw the light of day, and that so much citizen time was wasted in the process. One can only wonder whether the outcome would have been the same without citizens expressing outrage. There will be more of these battles. The next one is the Crosstrails CPAM. Supervisor Staton should recuse himself from this one - he accepted a $7500.00 campaign contribution from Steve Peterson of the Peterson Companies. John Galt - You are one of my favorite characters. I agree that discussion regarding Dulles South should continue in the background, but only as a means of improving the existing Comprehensive Plan - not just adding countless houses to it. "

JM wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:03 PM:

" Just curious Mr. Clem. Was it worth it? Care to show us your bank accounts? Of all of the Board members, your votes are the least comprehensible, given your stated platform....which so many trusted you to uphold. What happened Mr. Clem? The dollars were just too good? Shame Mr. Clem. "

GLW wrote on Nov 9, 2006 4:52 PM:

" Well it's nice to know that the fox watching the hen-house scenario never took place and Loudoun county survived yet another attempt to cripple this area with higher taxes, longer commutes and longer faces on those caught up in rush hour traffic. Just happy that the majority of elected officials did not fall asleep behind the wheel. But beware, the fox is still alive, at least until election time rolls around. "

Leesburg Citizen wrote on Nov 9, 2006 4:46 PM:

" Snow, Tulloch, "Del-gotta-go" and sadly, Clem, who I once thought was THE person who could bring sanity to this Board. We won't be seeing any of them after the next election. "

ashburner wrote on Nov 9, 2006 2:21 PM:

" Take a look at the Washington Post election coverage yesterday and you'll see why the supervisors dumped this quick. Voters in Frederick Co MD, and Prince WIlliam got rid of the pro-growth supervisors in their counties, by a landslide. The supes here in Loudoun who changed their mind are smart enough to see they wont survive with their build, build, build attitude. "

jbaker@aol.com wrote on Nov 9, 2006 2:08 PM:

" It's time to get Snow and Tulloch out of office in the next election! Save Loudoun!! "

John Galt wrote on Nov 9, 2006 1:05 PM:

" While the BOS may have acted correctly in denying the present request, they also lost about 2 1/2 years of work conducted by various people. Additionally, eliminating the applicant initiated CPAM process is absurd. Everyone should all have a right to propose changes through public processes, not just elected officials. How can we expect to grow intelligently without opening the County to new ideas? Also, does anyone remember when GMU started out as the Northern Virginia branch of UVA? I do, but most probably do not, because few people lived here then. It was not located in Fairfax City at that time, and when it did move there, infrastructure did not look much different than the proposed Loudoun GMU campus does today. GMU has credibility far exceeding the realm of Loudoun County, and therefore will not be affected by this. However, I strongly believe Loudoun County must preserve the effort, and keep the Dulles South work in motion to salvage its credibility. If for no other reason, we need to keep working on Dulles South out of respect for the citizens, consultants, county employees, and elected officials. The land of Loudoun County belongs to the citizens. It is everyone’s responsibility to see that it is put to the greatest uses possible. We really only have one shot at this people. "

George Hidy wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:22 PM:

" It does not amaze me that 3 supervisors (Snow, Delgaudio and Clemm) still supported adding upto 28,000 more homes to Dulles South corridor. I am amazed Supervisor Tullock and Staton changed their minds, or did 2007 election have a factor it this epiphany? What ever the reason --- Thank-You! Since Mr. Delgaudio has approved an additional 40,000 homes over 7 years, what are 28,000 additional homes and 15,000 more students? Greenvest pledged $200 million of improvements and the taxpayers would have had over $1 billion, fair deal if you are on the side of the builder and not the taxpayer, which appears that 3 of the Supervisors are. I think the Loudoun taxpayers would rather pay $200 million for the 4,000 homes. Cheers to Chairman York for challenging and calling Greenvest bluff on the “No Strings Attached” donation of land to GMU and shame on a state university telling the BOS those required infrastructures improvements to the property would be paid for by the taxpayers of Loudoun. I say to GMU, “Go to Richmond and ask for road money!” just like the rest of us! Mr. Gorski is correct, just be careful folks and watch what may happens next. There still are seven rezoning applications from Greenvest, Toll Brothers, and others in this transition area and we may see a slight of hand by a couple of Supervisors. These application must be withdrawn by the developers or denied by the Planning Commission. If not, this battle to save Loudoun County from the “Builder Board” will not be over! Remember 363 days until the people of Loudoun can have their freedom from the builders running this county and our Board of Supervisors. "

John H. wrote on Nov 9, 2006 10:06 AM:

" I want to commend the BOS for their decision last night to deny the Transition CPAM. The timing was not right, the costs were too high, and odds of success were not in favour of Loudoun County. To echo Mr. Gorski's comments, this is a major win for the citizens of Loudound, but the Dulles South conflict is far from over. I am cautiously optimistic that the developers will "rethink" their by-right proposals into something appropriate, but only time will tell. "

Sai Natarajan wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:02 AM:

" It is possible that Snow is so far out of touch with reality that he did not read Toll Brothers or NV Homes or Beazer bemoaning the state of Real Estate in Loudoun. There is a glut of homes and the market is dropping. I wish he had shown the same zeal in attracting Corporate jobs to Loudoun so that the residents could live and work in Loudoun rather than go to Farifax or DC. We only get Retail jobs that pay minimum wage and who can live on that. The Governor's new law hopefully will tie Transportation infrastructure to even "By rights" development so that we are saved. "

Ed Gorski wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:50 AM:

" A hearty "Thank You!!" to the six Board members-Chairman York, Vice-Chairmand Tulloch, and Supervisors Burton, Kurtz, Staton, and Waters for your vote to uphold the County's Comprehensive Plan for the Transition Area. However, this was only Round One. Unless the six or seven Rezoning Applications for Greenvest, Toll Brothers, etc. properties in the Transition Area are withdrawn the Board's denial of the CPAM 2005-0003, Upper Broad Run and Upper Foley Transition Sub-Areas will not be complete. We-the citiznes- need to keep the pressure on! "

Paul Martin wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:43 AM:

" Wow! An act of actual governance and fiscal sanity. Have I awoken in another world? The big development dollars and all their slick ads and pseudo "Institutes" could not hoodwink the taxpayers. If it looks like a skunk and smells like one then it is a stinker indeed! As for GMU, yes, their creditability is zero with me. I would like to see a university campus in Loudoun and we do have GW. This idea of trying to use GMU to leverage tens of thousands of houses and the costs onto the taxpayer’s backs was a real stinker. As for the traffic concerns Mr. Snow. I suggest you call your buddies in the building lobby and ask them to ask their buddies in Richmond to start doing their job and build us some roads. If not, then please send back all the taxes they extract from us at once. "

echy wrote on Nov 9, 2006 7:38 AM:

" Good. "

Scott wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:37 AM:

" Poor Supervisor Snow... he didn't get his way and now he's throwing a fit. Deal with it. Six of your coworkers made the right decision. "

Stevens R. Miller wrote on Nov 8, 2006 9:16 PM:

" This was the right outcome, but it took too long for the board to reach it, and required far too much time and energy from Loudoun's residents. There should never be a need for ordinary citizens to band together as they did this time to stop juggernaut corporate forces, nor highly funded opponents speaking for sources of money they refuse to name. But what a delightful postscript to an election day with over 50% turn-out, to see my neighbors win this battle. It's a testament to what dedicated people can do with heart, brains, and determination, even when the other side has more funds, time, and experience. Now let's just hope we never have to fight this battle again. "



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